Just how close is Novell Inc to IBM Corp? President Ray Noorda told Computergram that the extent of his company’s involvement with the IBM-Apple Computer Inc joint venture has yet to be seen – currently Novell already works closely with both Apple and IBM and Noorda said that these relationships may be transposed to the developing relationship between IBM and Apple: Novell vice-president of marketing, Darrell Miller, added obliquely that Novell has already had considerable success as an integrator of MS-DOS, Mac, OS/2 and AIX desktop operating environments; Noorda also said that long term there will be no distinction between a networking operating system and an ordinary operating system, there will simply be one major operating system with various components, but it was unclear whether he meant Apple’s planned Pink or a Novell project.